Thank you so much, Your email address will not be published. If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesnt mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. I never thought of Shanann possibly using these happy family videos with Chris before her death as a ploy to hang on to him or keep him from leaving. An officer arrived at about 1:40 pm to conduct a welfare check and had a discussion with Chris regarding the ways to locate his missing family. Murder is a way to save the family from the hardships, etc. Spot on I thinksort of sums up the sad complication of life.she was no doubt wanting to do the very best for her family, hence her ambition which could be viewed as obsession. ; she had already spent several *5* or so weeks without him before and that was the unfortunate reasoning for the freedom to start his affair with NK. Totally depressed, unable to eat or sleep and wondering how she was going to make it on her own. thats all she cared about period. But she didnt let up about it. And if you dont, youre victim blaming. She was desperate when she realized he was done. What if he really doesnt love me anymore? Do there was financial issues going on. And I say this as a woman you can be controlling and its something Im always working on. Wedding Picture of Shanann and Chris Watts. Granted, this is much, much worse than that, but there may be a clue to the criminal psychology in the family dynamics. THIS IS TOTAL LEFT FIELD.. If we assume that she killed the children, why did he not turn her to the police and secretly dumped the bodies of his children that she killed. The 34-year-old mother regularly posted updates on social media about her life in Frederick, Colorado, documenting her rise in the health and wellness world and gushing about her picturesque family. In an . Meanwhile Kessinger thought the marriage was over. In 2010, she met Chriss Lee Watts, who was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. He was denied bail at his first court appearance. Why does everyone on this thread seem so willing to badmouth a victim none of you have met? Shanann Watts' FIRST husband: Interview excerpts Thought-provoking videos 6.44K subscribers Subscribe 401 Share 22K views 2 years ago Everyone deserves to know the Truth: That "God is Love". I read a study on LIVID COERCIVE killers who are motivated by anger and rageshowing control issues (recent) and may have abusive tendencies and have issues achieving their self-worth and authority within the home. Hes the best dad us girls could ask for., Need help? On Monday, Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant, was reported missing along with her two daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. He pleaded guilty on November 9, and his death penalty was not put forward on Shananns familys request as a part of the plea deal. There hasn't been a crime as chilling and tragic as the murder of Shanann Watts and her daughters in a long time. Im sure he brought up divorce many times, her Im not so sure. This was supposed to trigger the annihilation that followed. they were flirting long before they ever hooked up and each knew the other was interested in them. Grief is written on your face for the rest of your life. I believe he thought about murdering them as soon as he got a taste of freedom.>>>Yes. Cans Natz. In 2015, Shanann and Chris Watts filed for bankruptcy, listing their liabilities at $400,000. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Have you forgotten what he did to her and his own children? I agree CBH. Youre right. Shananns behavior is not odd at all, in fact, its pretty much how people act when they no longer want to be with you. The first time Chris attempted to murder his two children, Shanann was still alive. I am so very sorry all of this happened but perhaps it gives pause for thought when making decisions. I have thought she cheated all along as well. Thank you for this. She started seeing signs long before he killed them even confiding in a friend I dont think hes cheating on me as he has no game! I know an ex wife who was getting very greedy and sued for more and lost because her ex could show he had no income by getting his employer to pay him in cash and lived on credit cards for a while. She was making it very difficult for him to go through with a divorce. Separation comes up 38 times in the discovery, and 8 times [separate or separating] in the CBI Report. In November 19, 2018, Chris Watts received three consecutive life sentences for the August 2018 deaths of his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. We dont know whether there had been violence during their marriage, but it would not be surprising that Shanann tried to project a positive image to her friends and colleagues, both on and off of social media.. Chris had been pulling away from her for a long time but once she got pregnant he was trapped and she knew it. That is a comment that should never have been said; parenthood is exhausting and social media never forgives human missteps. What was their age difference if he met her while she was still in high school? Shan'ann thought - or hoped - the marriage was stuttering slightly. Her first marriage/husband Discussion I'm interested in Shannan's first marriage. In 2010, she met Chriss Lee Watts, who was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. CW probably didnt believe he was good enough or thought he could do better. All of this would allow him to pacify her as well as himself and buy him some more time. Like a mercy killing. Shanann was absolutely obsessed with money and the finer things in life. A lot of people seem to side with Shanann because shes the victim. They met in 2010 through mutual friends and married in November 2012. Interesting none-the-less. How did things change so quickly? Chris likes other people calling the shots. My former brother in law once told me that he let his wife make most of their decisions. In BENEATH THE OIL, for the first time the full extent of how Chris Watts was locked-in is revealed, as well as why he may have broken out of his deeply dysfunctional marriage the way he did. I believe he didnt divorce her earlier because he needed to find someone else to take her place. No one has been able to fathom Chris Watts' motive - until now Two Face is available now exclusively on Amazon Kindle Unlimited. Christopher is now in jail facing six charges three for first-degree murder and three for tampering with evidence. Chris was arrested by Frederick Police on August 15, 2018, after he had failed a polygraph test, and subsequently, confessed to murdering his wife, Shanann. There she is chatting merrily with her mother about how they may go to the Mediterranean next year and how the water is nicer other places theyve been. People divorce and move on with their lives. August 22, 2018 / 3:26 PM / CBS Colorado. In November 2017, Shanann posted a video to her Facebook pageto celebrate their anniversary. Its clear from a thorough analysis of all the discovery and both confessions that Watts was trying to separate from his wife in the weeks and months before the murders, going back as far as a year [close to when Kessinger allegedly made that first Google search for Shanann Watts. On August 21, Chris was charged with five counts of first-degree murder, an additional one count per child cited as death of a child who had not yet attained 12 years of age and the defendant was in a position of trust, three counts of tampering with a deceased human body, and unlawful termination of a pregnancy. Why was their marriage not going well? She could barely handle the 2 monsters she had, another on the way, and Chris did a lot around the house to help out with the girls, meanwhile she had them in school that cost them 2K per month. Taylor, "We will get together when I get home". In Shananns mind she may have convinced herself it all had to do with the nut argument with his parents, then at the end of her life she may have gotten the message that he was cheating, but way way before that. When Watts visited the Hair Jazz salon in Aberdeen where Sandi Rzucek worked, it was clear to the hairdressers [Sandis co-workers] that Watts wasnt happy, and Sandi actually told them then [in early August 2018] that the marriage wasnt working, and that the couple were separating. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Taylor, "I am here for you and whatever you need. Based on her Facebook page, Shanann Watts had it all: a satisfying career that allowed her to travel, two gorgeous little girls, a doting husband and a new baby on the way. Kessinger says something to same effect, that Watts wanted to sell his home, but not right away. In a fit of rage, Chris strangulated Shanann and took the three dead bodies to a remote oil-storage site, Anadarko Petroleum, where he was employed before. Thank you Dr. Van De Leek for your enlightament, You have even managed to make it readable and easy to read. I love how some people begin their comments with Im not victim blaming BUT or Obviously he should not have done it BUT . She was the same way with her 1st husband. He refused to hug me after he said he will try to work it out! I am the louder, extroverted one in my marriage and my husband is the quieter, more agreeable type. He stated that he was having an affair with a woman named Nichol Kessinger and wanted to divorce Shanann, but Shanann did not want a separation, and she strangled their daughters in response to that. and then giving long winded opinions about how it was ultimately her fault. On August 13, 2018, Chris strangled Shanann in their Colorado home. She would have moved back to NC, had her parents look after the kids, gotten a regular ole job and not have been too happy. Shanann was still very good friends with her ex husbands mother too. If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesn't mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. Janny Free please dont call them little monsters they died but the hand of their father, and Bella was such a sweet little girl, and CeCe was younger she was still in toddler stageShe was gonna grow out of itNo matter what happened between these adults they didnt deserve to die, and neither did Shanann RIP Shanann and your 3 Angels Bella Celeste Nico , Janny didnt call them little monsters she was repeating what Shanann called them in one of her videos . R.I.P Shanann, Bella, Celeste and Nico . They met when she was in high school and he was in law school. I listened to Interview podcast with the ex. To her credit she was, and she did. However. But wasn't he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? In an effort to avoid the death sentence, he had pled guilty on Nov. 6, 2018 to killing his pregnant 34-year-old wife Shanann Watts, and their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, not quite three months earlier.And the five life sentences that would be handed down weeks laterplus additional time for the murder of his unborn son . As early as August 8th, Shanann confided in Cassie Rosenberg and Nickole Atkinson that her husband wanted a divorce [she didnt], but not right away. She didnt break him. He described how he did it. Coverts are nominally closet bi-sexuals. He already secured the oil field site so that no one else would be there when he disposed of the bodies. Said he thought another baby would fix his feelings. Part of HuffPost Crime. To me inside he was a volcano just waiting to erupt. There is never a good enough reason to do what he did. I remember she mentioned in her video discussing this time period she portrayed herself as a hard worker that put him through school. ET. Required fields are marked *. Watts told Ann Meadows, the realtor, on the morning the disappearance that him and Shanann hadnt gotten on for over a year. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. In an interview with a local news station on Tuesday, Christopher said he and his wife had an emotional conversation before her disappearance, and he pleaded for her and the kids to come home. Watts, 35, reportedly detailed the gruesome slaying of Shanann Watts in one of his prison letters - and he also revealed that he'd been thinking about killing her for "weeks." 15 Disturbing prison letters from Chris Watts to a crime author detailed Shannan Watts' horrific death Credit: Refer to Caption 15 The case became one of the most publicized murders in American history. We may never know, but amateur sleuths may want to look at a timeline of their marriage for clues. He knew his new woman wasnt going to stand for him shelling out half his income in child support, no way. Didnt she say somewhere that Chris is the one who thought a third child, hoping for a boy, would help their marriage and then she mentions to people that he now thinks Bella and Celeste are enough? Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage but she never suspected her life was in danger. I love you so much and so grateful you hung around when I tried pushing you away in the beginning!, On Fathers Day, Shanann penned a loving tribute to her husband on Facebook, and she shared over a dozen photos of him cuddling and playing with their two kids. To think that you have been replaced is scary, when you know there isnt a way to fix things anymore. On August 13, 2018, Watts strangled his wife, Shanann, in their 4,177-square-foot home. Many have called him a monster, a psychopath, or just pure evil. The heartbreaking messages hint at a crumbling marriage and a wife who can't figure out why her husband seems to suddenly want a divorce. For anyone who questions if he did, think about losing your child. In 2013, the couple bought a large, five-bedroom home in Frederick, Colorado prior to the birth of their first daughter, Bella. I think they were married 3-4 years. Shanann "I've cried myself to sleep over a week now. Nickole Utoft Atkinson, Friend, and Colleague of Shanann Watts. Separating was sort of a trial one when she visited family for 5 weeks, and divorce was push coming to shove in Chriss mind to permanently change his life. If Chris CHOOSES not to make a choice in anything ie lets watch what you want to watch eat where you want to eat go where you want to go etc that doesnt automatically make Shannan controlling, it makes Chris a boring, spineless, personalityless wimp. She did tho, threaten him all the time, to take the kids away and he would never see them again. Reportedly, the documentary consists of the archival footage of the case with no narration or enactment; it also includes social media posts, law enforcement recordings, text messages, and home videos. No one has been able to fathom Chris Watts' motive - until now Two Face is available now exclusively on Amazon Kindle Unlimited. Shannon too did a lot for the family. And by recording him, for example, reacting to news of the third pregnancy and posting it on Facebook, it was becoming almost impossible to get out of it. Why is it assumed that Shannan is controlling and that Chris hated it? So why didnt Watts just get a divorce, like the district attorney said? Shananns job and income depended on selling the idea of Thriving. They are doing their best to survive the situation, she said. The YT video I watched as referenced above has a few parts to it that are quite informative and have helped me to fully understand both sides of this marriageand actually if you ask me, there were more than twothere were 4 CW, SW, NK and his parents (mom) were all involved in the marriage I think there were multiple influences and opinions that were making things toxic on both ends. Yes, she did want to have the good things in life. He then dumped his children's bodies on an oil site owned by the company he worked for. You do so much everyday for us and take such great care of us. Shanann was married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009. He went from being a loving husband excited to welcome a new baby to his family to a man cheating on his wife to a man who murdered his wife and daughters and dumped them in an oil field. This baby in my belly deserves his full love, she texted her friend, who had advised her to go through Chris phone for signs of infidelity. So I do wonder did Shanann ever really acknowledge why Chris may have been unhappy? Going way back, back to the conversation she had with Mr. Hamza, back before Chris was shopping around for hookups, back to when he might have first flirted with Nichole Kessinger. In that picture of CW in that dumb shirt SW had made (just her, the girls had *nothing* to do with it) and made him wear, hes showing his teeth but he does not seem happy. Interesting points made here. He hasnt touched me all week, kissed me, talked to me except for when Im trying to figure out what is wrong, Shanann explained in another text. Odd that when her marriage to King ran into trouble her behavior exactly mirrored that of Chris in the months before the murders: Not waning to engage in conversation, shutting down, withdrawing, physically distancing herself within the home, etc. Chris had his $5 million bails revoked after this and was remanded to custody immediately. For some reason she couldnt fathom him cheating and posting stupid shit constantly about her wonderful life that was only in her head. It all goes back to SW having a similar strong personality to CWs mom, that is probably the sole reason CWs mom didnt like SW. Called him a wierdo one one of her nauseating THRIVE pitches. He wasnt emasculated by her, thats who he was before she came along. You seem to like the psychopath label. Well, it may be because Shanann didnt want to, and thought she could sort of control Watts into not going through with it. On November 3, 2012, Chris and Shanann got married in the Mecklenberg County of North Carolina. She was a victim of the Watts Family Murders that occurred on August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado. Is Shanann the only girlfriend he ever had? Watts was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. Hes conflicted by the pros and cons of making such a drastic change in his life. Shanann Watts Brother Always Worried About Her and the Girls But Couldnt Protect Them, Days Before Murder, Chris Watts' Wife Shanann Was Worried: 'What If He Really Doesn't Love Me Anymore? They filed for bankruptcy due to do much debt they had. Hes a fucking psychopath. Quiet people may appear calm but Chris was not quiet inside. I believe CW told NK and SW exactly what each of them wanted to hear to fit his narrative and his end-game. He doesnt say but of course, we are only getting Leonards side of the story and we cant hear Shananns. Two days later, a body believed to be Shananns was found on property owned by Christophers employer, Anadarko Petroleum. The Colorado woman's husband, Chris - a normally loving affectionate man - had become cold and distant. Prosecutors have cited Watts' desire for a fresh start with his mistress, coworker Nichol Kessinger, 30, as his motive in the killings and the Google searches, as well as other facts made public in the documents, provide insight into the state of mind of a man Shanann's father described as a "heartless monster." Hes my ROCK! she wrote about her husband, Christopher Watts, in May. Then he meets Nichol, and he does what she tells him to do. I think Nick Der Leek does an outstanding job because he cleverly reviewed the case in its entirety and was able to provide spot on the mental makeup of both Chris and Shannan beginning with being unequally yoked. Chris Watts killed his pregnant wife Shanann and their two daughters three years ago, a still-shocking crime that shattered those who thought they knew the picture-perfect young family. Chris and Shanann were from small towns in North Carolina. Shanann Watts and her younger brother, Frankie Rzucek, were raised in Aberdeen, N.C. Chris Watts is also from North Carolina, and he married Shanann Watts in the state back in 2010. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. At some point she was finished with the relationship and iced him out. The first indication that something might be wrong in their daughter and her husband's marriage was during a family trip this past summer. Remains believed to belong to their two children were. So maybe he was just as obsessed with money as she was. They withdraw and distance themselves. Guaranteed she didnt make enough to support herself, she needed Chris pay to keep her illusion going. It was so refreshing to finally see an actual, logical response. The following day, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation and the FBI joined the investigation. . In the U.S., call 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) for the. On Monday, Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant, was reported missing along with her two daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. The ex states Shanann states she left because domestic violence. Chris boss spoke very highly of him in the first phone interview with the CBI. Maybe she liked him supporting her, but they were going to run out of money again. Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW, A milder separation narrative [to Shanann]. I agree on all counts. The only negative thing he had to say was that Chris was extremely quiet and that sometimes he would basically have to pry a response out of him. Just Published! One of the jobs typically associated with psychopaths are salespeople. He comes across as predatory and basic. A puzzle that is missing many key pieces. The kids were told to throw chicken nuggets at him. Chris Watts opened up about the many cracks in his marriage shortly after being sentenced to life in prison without parole for murdering his family. Ok so I have an opinion on this and it probably wont be a popular one but here goes. I like nice things and having nice experiences. But it is frustrating watching people who live 1000 times above their means and then expect everybody else to forgive their debts through bankruptcy. Why do you need film footage of that? She had a brother named Frankie Rzucek. She was brought up in the Moore County of North Carolina. I think he was motivated by the insurance money. I have been there but sometimes you have to get a reality check. But even most narcissistic sociopaths dont strangle people. Chris had already killed Shanann, four-year-old Bella and three-year-old Celeste on Monday, August 13. On June 11 . He seems unable to make and follow through with what he leads both Shanann and Nicole K to believe. Shanann Watts was an American businesswoman. In a new documentary from Netflix, newly revealed letters and texts show that Shanann had no idea that her marriage would soon turn deadly. He'd stopped touching her, kissing her, would barely speak unless spoken to. And yet we know while this was happening Shanann still wanted to do a gender reveal. Obviously Thrive was all BS and she was facing a pregnancy all by herself, flat broke and facing humiliation from her team/peers and raising kids by herself. Tammy Lee, an investigator in the case, conducted the . The documentary investigates the 2018 crimes of Chris Watts, 35, who brutally killed his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, and their two daughters Bella, four and Celeste aged three. Shanann thought or hoped the marriage was stuttering slightly. He thought he could sway this to work in his favor. Yeah, she was a real gem. There isnt a loss like it. ! she texted, adding, He said we are not compatible anymore! >>>Firstly because he was having an affair, and secondly because he murdered her. Hammering away relentlessly. It doesnt matter what her past mistakes may or may not have been. Heartbreaking evidence photos and video of stained shirt, underwear and bra Shanann Watts was wearing when her husband murdered her, wrapped her in a sheet and put her in shallow grave The. Lewis Geyer/Digital First Media Group . But none of those descriptions really explain what led him to commit murder. Three weeks before a friend reported Shanann missing on Aug. 13, leading to the discovery that her and the girls had been murdered, Shanann texted her husband on July 24, writing, "l realized. The word divorce comes up 35 times in the Discovery Documents and just once in the CBI Report. Covert Narcissist are incapable of real love and learn early on to mimic. 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